With the 250-grain bullet, it's better than the .30-06 on heavy game at close ranges. As unmagical as that might sound, it's one of the hardest hitting non-magnum cartridges ever. And, as any fan of the .35-caliber cartridges knows, there are quite a few bullet weights to choose from within the caliber. was also the only cartridge of that original Remington family that was based on a different parent case. The most popular cartridges for hunting and even target shooting begin and end with the thirties. .35 caliber rifle cartridges have been around practically forever without ever really becoming popular. Mag. The .350 Remington Magnum is the only cartridge that appears on both lists of current and obsolete calibers. In addition, for stopping the big predators of the world, it's hard to beat a suitable .35 caliber rifle. After ten years of not getting drawn I sold it it was too much gun for most of my hunting. in its NoslerCustom line with a 225-grain Partition bullet at 2550 f.p.s. Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Bertram Brass from Australia is a good source when you can get it, and Quality Cartridge makes a run of .350 Rigby every few years, but you could be waiting a considerable amount of time. I bought it as a moose rifle but never got drawn in ten years. My vote is for the .35 Whelen. A cross-section of loads for the .358 Norma Magnum include the (1) Sierra 125-grain JHP, (2) Sierra 170 FMJ, (3) Speer 180, (4) 200-grain cast bullet and a (5) Sierra 200 roundnose. G. Joined: Sep 2009. Shortening the 2.85-inches long .375 H&H case wasnt exactly a revolutionary ideathat little-known .275 H&H so closely resembles the design of the half-century younger 7mm Remington Magnum that its uncannybut with the Winchester marketing machine the concept was brought to the forefront. The first time I ever hunted with a .358 Norma Magnum, it was a custom rifle built on a Mauser Mark X action. Many western hunters annually take elk with 6mms and .25s. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. On June 26, 1959, Sweden's Ingemar Johansson demolished Floyd Patterson in the third round of their first heavyweight title fight in New York. all were more powerful-and may have been excellent hunting cartridges-but they are gone; rejected by the shooting public and banished to the junk heap of obsolescence. No matter if its books, art or hunting cartridges, its only those with a deep understanding of the subject who can fully understand the greatness often buried in obscurity. Shaw rifle's 24-inch barrel.. That version is in some dispute, with evidence that Whelen himself developed the cartridge or at least worked with Howe on its development. The .358 Win. and .32 Rem. Contributor Brad Fenson takes to the grill, to cook up some delicious venison burgers. This was not the factory bullet from the 1960s, with its mild-steel jacket, but a later one. Then come the .270s. That does not mean that any gunsmith who had his own ideas about velocity and accuracy might not include it or go completely the other way. Like most of the children of the Holland & Holland parents, the .358 Norma uses its shoulder for headspacing, rather than the belt, as do the .375 and .300 H&H. Its spawn, the .351 Winchester Self Loader, fared a little better, but it was never in danger of greatness. SAUM and .300 WSM, with their 180 grain bullets at a MV of 2960-2970 fps, have an optimum range of about 120 yards on 1000 pound animals. Heeding the advice of American friends, Kvale worked on what would become the .358 Norma Magnum. The .35 Whelen has a relatively simple design: it's a .30-06 Springfield case necked up to use .358 instead of .308 bullets (the exact opposite of the .270 Winchester in other words). 358 norma mag is a rarer bird but as I understand fire forming 300 win mag brass an easy way to feed it. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. In the mid 70's I picked up a 358Norma. In cartridges, as in boxing, what goes on behind the scenes often determines the outcome. Common loads fire a 200-grain bullet at 2,800 fps (about 3,480 foot pounds of energy), a 225-grain bullet at around 2,600fps (3,380 foot pounds of energy . Any listing you find for H-4895 can be modified by loading only 60 percent of the published minimum to create some very comfortable loads. and the 6.5 mm Rem. These work, but my thinking has changed over the years. With such a variety of bullets, you would think the skys the limit in terms of different loads, but there are other factors to consider. Faster 6.5sthe new 6.5 PRC, the old .264, or the super-fast .26 Nosler and 6.5-300 Weatherbywill deliver more energy and open the range envelope a bit. And for the larger antelope species, like any of the eland, wildebeest, zebra and roan, the .350 Rigby Magnum is a sound choice. It is a good choice for shooters who are very sensitive to recoil, since its free recoil energy is only about 4.5 ft. lbs. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. The barrel is a full 22 inches, like it always should have been, but the foolish design with the huge shark fin front sight turned hunters off, and it was dropped. Food for thought, is it not? Ive obviously left the door wide open. Mag. At the same time, it will do almost everything the .375 will but with vastly more versatility. is still not burning up the sales records, so maybe ahead of its time is the wrong description. 35 Whelen. These were, primarily, the Schultz & Larsen (Denmark), the Husqvarna (Sweden) and a few Browning High Powers made by FN in Belgium. bruce. Out of stock View Details . of muzzle energy. The fortunate few who own them want to keep them, and these are the core admirers who make it worth Normas while to continue offering brass and loaded ammunition. He, too, could have been one of the greats. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? First, it will do everything the .338 will, and a bit more. Far more alternatives, in fact, than exist in several more popular caliber families. In rifle cartridges, we usually take the safe route and .30-caliber has emerged as the American shooters choice. This list gives some idea of the .358 Normas status today: Those rifles rarely seem to come on the market. So if you have a .375 (or larger) and a yen to take it elk hunting, be my guest. Sierras 225-grain spitzer boat-tail, designed for the .35 Whelen, is a stellar performer in the .358 Norma. Looking for previous installments of our "Behind the Bullet" series? In the 80s, when Jack Carter was making his Trophy Bonded Bearclaw bullet by hand, I did some elk hunting with the 240-grain .375 version. The origins of the .35 Whelen are controversial even today. From limited experience of loading for two different 358 Norma Magnum rifles (a Schultz & Larson Model 65 and a Custom Sako AV) I used to neck up new Winchester 338 Win. The 338/06 when compared to the .35 Whelen only beats it with the lighter bullets and not by much. I am also looking at building a 358 Norma Mag on a model 110 Savage action, formerly a 300 Win mag, and start from scratch with the stock ( bedding and pillar) and make it a tolerable shooter even if a bit heavy. Not necessarily top dollar everything. That load actually produced 2825 f.p.s. They have almost all abandoned the cartridge. How it would have done on a live animal is impossible to say. Nosler offers the .350 Rem. Even so, most experienced deer hunters have pretty good ideas on appropriate rifles. I wont be ashamed to take it elk hunting, but today Im certain that level of power is not essential. | Mag. All rights reserved. Kevin Steele of Petersen's HUNTING is at the Streamlight booth at SHOT Show 2023 to go over the Bear Trap light from Streamlight. The 358 Norma is a sure mag round, but expensive ammo and brass. As a result of all this activity, .358-inch diameter jacketed rifle bullets are available in a wide range of weights and styles, from 150-grain semipointed to 200- grain roundnose, all the way up to 310 grains for the heaviest game. From a 12 twist bore, accuracy sweet spots for light bullets include 2950fps with 180 grain bullets, 2925fps with 200 grain bullets, before normalizing with 225 grain bullets at 2900fps. As it was released in the first century of the . In an age of ultra-specializatio in every field, and especially rifles, such versatility is almost an anachronism. Of course, it took the .338 Winchester Magnum many years to catch on, and it took the .243/6mm cartridges over a half century after the introduction of the 6mm Lee Navy cartridge to gain popular acceptance, so perhaps there is still hope for the .35's. Sure, you can get away with it, especially with todays extra-heavy bullets, but I think its foolish. and is a good cartridge for hunting the thick woods for deer, hogs, black bear or even elk. Kevin Steele stops by the Taurus booth to speak with Cody Osborn about the all new Raging Hunter platform from Taurus International. Frankly, I would not want to be without them. Bottles & 12-oz. But there is no compelling reason to consider a caliber larger than .35. The only rifles I can find in production are from Nosler, Remington and CVA. I'm sending my 270 tikka off to JES rebore to get it punched out to 35 whelen. The big issue with the .350 Rigby Magnum is the lack of available ammunition. All Petersen's Hunting subscribers now have digital access to their magazine content. I could get brass easy from each by forming parent cases, 308 and 30-06. 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The .350 Magnum has a case length of 2.742 inches, and an overall cartridge length 3.44 inches, so it will feel at home in a magnum-length receiver. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. A failed product is often said to be ahead of its time, which is usually just a polite way of saying nobody wanted to buy it. It was verry expensive to shoot, lots of powder and expensive bullets and brass. Sadly, I cant find a single major gunmaker chambering this cartridge today. And Barnes makes a 200-grain TSX bullet designed for this cartridge that, when handloaded to 2850 f.p.s., allows the .350 Rem. I did secure properly head stamped Norma cases thinking we'd need them going over into the Yukon (no one ever checked). Likewise, so do experienced western elk hunters. Compare the Queen of the .35's, the .350 Remington Magnum--the original short (.308 length) magnum cartridge--with the new generation of short action magnums. That load has a maximum optimal range on 1000 pound game (like a big Alaskan moose or brown bear) of 151 yards. By coincidence, in that same year, Norma Projektilfabrik of Sweden introduced its own heavyweight champion, the .358 Norma Magnum. However, Winchesters .338 Magnum proved to be the darling of not only those bound for the 49th state, but for those hunting elk and moose at lower latitudes. As Ive said, I like mediums, such as the unpopular 8mm Remington Magnum and the faster .33s. Perhaps, if the word gets out to the shooting public, the born again .350 may finally achieve the commercial success it deserves. I own several rifles in this cartridge and all my .35 Whelen rifles are accurate. to achieve its potential. During the spring conservation order, you can hunt with outfitters from Arkansas to Saskatchewan. Mag. The .45-70 is another very popular cartridge. Don't like Rugers much had my fill of them and now they are gone down the road. They are a little short initially and after two firings they were just fine. This stumpy little cartridge was introduced to the hunting public in 1908 and is the only surviving member of the early class of Remington rimless cartridges. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. Though still under construction, Im eager to take the classic cartridge into the hunting fields. For anyone with an experimental or fanciful turn of mind, the .358 Norma and the many .358-inch diameter bullets are a gold mine. One can almost hear the echoes of Norma Mag. Mag. The ammunition hung on a while longer, but eventually Big Green abandoned her babies and stopped making both cartridges. Kevin Steele, Publisher of Petersen's HUNTING talks with JJ Reich of HEVI-Shot about the new offerings for 2023. In 1987 Remington made an honest cartridge out of the .35 Whelen. Have all three, and have not shot any of em My medium is a 9,3x62. Publisher, Kevin Steele is with Brett Marquardt from Streamlight Inc. discussing the new Streamlight Pro Tac 2.0, the latest edition in the Pro Tac series. Griffin & Howe developed the semiwildcat .350 G&H based on the .375 H&H case, as well as pioneering the .35 Whelen. it is complicated further by a requirement for different burning rate powders. I am not into the current long-range fad, especially on powerful animals like elk. Read today's "The Armed Citizen" entry for real stories of law-abiding citizens, past and present, who used their firearms to save lives. With todays interest in long-range shooting, big scopes are in, but powerful scopes add weight. On a 600 pound animal like a big bull elk the optimum game range of the .308 (180 grain bullet at a MV of 2610 fps) is a useful 175 yards. and .35 Rem., it was an excellent woods rifle for hunting whitetails. So while some of my rifle choices may have been oddball, none of the rifles Ive used for elk have been exactly wrong. The .350 Rem. The cartridge would be championed by Denys Finch Hatton (of Out of Africa fame), John Pondoro Taylor and Pete Pearson, and would be used by Baron Bror von Blixen-Fineke as well. was designed for the American market, but sadly no American riflemaker ever chambered the cartridge in a cataloged gun. with a 250-grain Oryx bullet-both with a 200-yd. Kynoch was a big producer of .350 ammo, but that has ceased in the recent past. I will go with the 35 Whelen BUT 9.3x62 will be cool due that you already have a 350 Rem mag, if you're opening the bolt face the 358 STA better option than Norma and 338-06 could be a nice choice too. Shaw will make a rifle, as will any other custom, or semi-custom, riflemaker. figure of 0.300 is desirable, and comparing similar cartridges, youll see the .350 Rigby comes in a bit behind the other popular choices of the day. Out of stock View Details . Posts: 46,063. I am often criticized for following the Elmer Keith school in suggesting powerful cartridges. I have a .356 Win. It was recovered in bits and pieces. The hunter from afar, journeying into unfamiliar country, must also accept the pressure of a limited period of time and the knowledge that it may come down to just one chance. My .375 H&H seemed quite adequate. 9.3x62 boots 320gr Woodleigh protected points and weldcore round noses out at 2400 fps with RL-17. In both cartridges, versatility is limited more by the narrow range of bullets available than by any other factor. It was an 03 Springfield action, unknown barrel, very nice piece of wood, all the fancy metal work done (custom trigger, side safety ala Rem 700, cocking knob and safety removed, milled floorplate, forged bolt, speedloader slots removed, D&T'd ,polished and blued). The .358 Norma established its reputation in high-end hunting rifles like this Schultz & Larsen Model 65DL. The M700 has been a popular action for building a rifle in .358 STA, a wildcat based on the 8mm Remington Magnum. Not only that, many different bullet moulds were made for casting .358 bullets in some of the most fanciful shapes. were to go head to head with the .25-35 Win., .30-30 Win. The .35-caliber cartridges usually top out at 250 grains, though if a 300-grain bullet at a slightly faster twist rate were employed, it would certainly be in the same class as the .375 Holland & Holland. In the entry on the .358 Norma, it maintains that, had Norma convinced a major American riflemaker to offer the chambering in the early years, it could have become one of the greats. Released in 1908, the .350 Rigby Magnum is an entirely original design, with no parent cartridge. I think it would be cheeper to get another action or a magnum bolt. The Remington Model 600 Magnum rifle, along with the cartridge it birthed, was just such a product. So are the .350 Remington Magnum and .358 Norma Magnum. Ruger made a few bolt-actions some years back, and Remington made rifles in the 700 Classic line, but they are long gone. A medium variable in the 3-9X or 2.5-10X range should be enough scope for elk hunting. Blocker Outdoors Finisher gloves, headcovers and other accessories are available in Mossy Oak Bottomland and Mossy Oak Obsession NWTF camouflage patterns to match various turkey hunting terrain. Norma Projektilfabrik answered Winchesters designs with a pair of their own: the .308 Norma Magnum and its slightly older brother, the .358 Norma Magnum. Ill bet its been awhile since those cartridges have been seen in a hunting camp. Also as I have a lot of 357 pistol bullets I was figuring on being able to use them as reduced loads/smaller game options in either big 35 cal should I go that route. is a wonderful cartridge, but nobody buys them. Your rifle is your most important hunting tool, and knowing how to properly clean and store it when hunting season comes to a close is critical in keeping it in tip-top shape. The 6.5mm Creedmoor and the old 6.5x55 are sound minimal choices, adequate to 300 yards. There is only .007-inch (seven thousandths) difference between the .270s .277-inch bullet and the 7mms .284-inch bullet. The better ones create mild gallery or small-game loads that are economical, quiet, virtually without recoil and best of all a lot of fun to shoot. In Johanssons case, disdain for serious training left him vulnerable when the superbly conditioned Patterson came back a year later, gave him a dazzling boxing lesson and reclaimed the title. While the American mainstream wont accept the .35, they are not unloved. The .35 Win., .35 Newton and .350 Griffin & Howe Mag. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. Lyman lists 47 different moulds that were available at one time or another, ranging in bullet weight from 70 to 282 grains. Energy figures have it knocking at the door of 375H&H. Everybody agrees that the .358 Win. Kevin Steele from Petersen's HUNTING speaks to Jordan Egli of Burris Optics about the all-new Veracity PH Riflescope. The .35 Rem. The .358 Norma Mag. My 35 Whelen will run 250gr partitions at 2700 fps with power pro 2000 powder. Compare the .308 Winchester and the .358 Winchester, which are based on the same case, and the .358 wins hands down. I don't hunt Kodiac island nor elephants so utilizing the 06 case to build an elk rifle, lower 48 grizzly country rifle works for me. Every time I use it I ask myself, Whats not to like? Beats me, but nobody liked it enough to keep it in production. Perhaps thats how it should be, the masses rarely embrace true greatness. Released in 1959though there were no factory chambered rifles or factory loaded ammunition available for the new cartridgeNorma offered chamber reamers and new component brass for its new brainchild. I would also expect it to handle anything in North America from deer to the big bears. The .35 Whelen is accurate, hits hard, penetrates deep, shoots flat and recoils mildly. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. As it turned out, having a great punch was not enough for either one. Heres how to avoid the poseurs and choose the right one. .500 Nitro Express. Since lack of a gas seal in a low-pressure load is more of a nuisance than a danger, it can be ignored if you dont mind the soot. But starting in the late 1950s, the .338 bore size gained considerable tractionthanks to the emergence of the .338 Winchester Magnum. You bet they worked! And with modern powders and loads, it knocks on the door of the .300 WSM and .300 Winchester Magnum. Size aside, American elk are very tough creatures. Although such weight is rare, a big bull can exceed 1,000 pounds. Subscriber Services. The .358 in a bolt-action rifle with a good scope is as accurate as any hunting cartridge available. It shoots well and is light and easy to carry while hunting. The .318 Westley Richards was a highly popular choice at that time, and it drives a 250-grain bullet of .330-inch diameter, with a SD of 0.328, and the .375 Holland & Holland uses a 300-grain bullet of nominal diameter with a SD of 0.305; both are renowned for their penetration. from the 24" barrel of a Marlin 336XLR rifle. has been offered in just about every rifle action type ever conceived and a few handguns. Avoid quick-opening bullets, especially match bullets; instead, choose controlled-expansion designs intended for hunting larger game. It put an exclamation point on that lung shot. Synthetic stocks arent always lighter than wood, but they are stronger and more stable, and elk hunting can be hard on rifles. offered the performance level of the .358 Win. Federal loads the 225-grain Trophy Bonded Bear Claw bullet with a muzzle velocity of 2600 f.p.s. However, should a hunter who enjoys using cartridges that arent among the most popular find a rifle chambered for the .358 Norma Magnum? Its safe to say that of all the .358 Norma Magnum rifles in existence, there are more custom than factory ones, and this makes it tricky to load for in another way. When chambered for cartridges such as the .243 Win., 6 mm Rem., .308 Win. Heres a detailed look at each step of the process. All Rights Reserved. The trouble is, they didnt sell. Wolfe Publishing Company | 2180 Gulfstream Suite A | Prescott, AZ 86301. This is not enough to argue about, so Im not convinced that the 7mm is better than the .270, but you can stoke it with a heavier bullet. compare 338/06 vs 338 win, and 35 whelen vs 358 norma vs 358 alaskan (stw) loaded to same pressure. Where the .338 Winchester drives its 250-grain bullet to 2650 fps, the .358 Norma beats that figure by 100 fps or so, delivering over 4,200 ft.-lbs. Trust me, you could do worse, but youll be hard-pressed to do better! They live in steep, rough country, and their long legs cover a lot of ground. Heres a look at 10 of the most flexible long-range hunting cartridges. Oklahoma. I was wrong. i have a 35 whelen and love it. For the handloader, as the accompanying table demonstrates, the .358 Norma Magnum provides an almost unbelievable range of possibilities, from loads light enough for gallery shooting to heavy enough. Even the obscure .358 Norma Magnum is the most efficient of the belted-magnum cartridges [note - by the author's own data the 350 Remington Magnum bests the 358 Norma]. Cartridges that in many cases cannot match the killing power, at normal hunting ranges, of comparable .35's. The writings of Robert Ruark certainly helped the reputation of the cartridge and the company, as Ruark put his young PH Harry Selby and the .416 Rigby rifle he carried on a pedestal. Its a flat shootermimicking the trajectory of a .30-06 with heavier bulletsand is fully capable as an all-around choice. While I generally prefer the former over the latter, I think that both choices are effective. I took it to Texas in 1989 and decked a nilgai at about 90 yards. With a 200-grain bullet the .35 Whelen actually shoots a bit flatter than the .30-06 Sprg. was included in that party is a mystery, as it had no Winchester counterpart. For example, take the most powerful of the factory standardized .35's, the .358 Norma Magnum. Got a nice .270 Win MTN Rifle donor 700. Meanwhile, the .358 Norma fizzled, for lack of a better term, because rifles were not readily available, ammunition was expensive and hard to get, and it found itself in direct competition with one of the great American cartridges of the twentieth century, Winchesters .338 Magnum. Its also worth noting that, in spite of its relative obscurity, the cartridge appears in many of the most recent loading manuals, including Normas own, a worthwhile addition to anyones reloading library. The bullet was the then-new Trophy Bonded 250-grain Bear Claw. As it stands, it is most certainly on the edge of becoming obsolete.
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